When George Yeeee separated from his wife, he had a lover. When Lancelot married Ellin, the Queen was in his heart. It is not unusually for a man who lives for 80 to 90 years old without 2 or 3 women in his heart. "Behind every man there are more than a woman."
A and GY: you are being doubly negative, "it's not unusual", means it's usual for an 80 to 90 years old man without 2 or 3 women. What you really mean is that a man will have 2 or 3 women in his life time.
A men or a women does have several sex partners in his or her life time. But once married he or she shall have only one, by law.
Did you (Tiao ) get permission from Lee family to be roles in your cartoons? the roles and topics 諷刺性太強,招致反彈???? Would it be complained by Lee or even lawsuited by Lee ?
Some Chinese governmental officials have a dozen of nais. But they banned Tang Wei from all media in China - TV, movie, print..etc. How will that poor girl make a living in China?
She ought to come to USA like Zhang ziyi did. Lee Ang would surely be glad to help her out.
People like most animals are polygamists. Some men want or would fantasize of a multiple female partner relationship, like a king with a bunch of concubines. And other men stay with one mate for the reason either they've found true love, or they can't afford to stray away.
Now that doesn't make women exempt from the whole thing. Some women are just like those fantasizing males. They stay put because they are happy with their mates, or bound by duty like rearing the young and caring for the elderly. When the kids are grown and when they gain financial independence. They would divorce, if love waned.
Silent is the key. Women like to do it as well. But that chauvinist Edison Chen liked to show off his trophies that caused the trouble and brought down himself and his partners. He seemed to be more a lusty than a lovingly person. And his partners were likewise playful, except that girl named Ah-Jiao who seemed to be more devoted in the relationship.
二品帶刀: Lynn is not away from topic. "People like most animals are polygamists" cited from comments allowed to post. ...polygamists is not allowed in civilized society. not good for heredity. I read it before you delete it. It simply respond to Anonymous | April 5, 2008 11:55 AM.
Insha Alla, 二品帶刀, you insulted the muslim men who are allowed by Quran Bible to have 4 wives. Each wife is equal in the family. And their offsprings are equal as well. Not like Chinese, the big wife and her offsprinf are superior over the others.
Dear Friends: I am a retired 63 old has-been. I enjoy my life now. When I look at my picture which was taken 30 years ago, I like(love) myself, however, not today. As I said, in this country, when you are 30 you are old. Well, I just found this blog (all bolgs in WJ )are intetesting, therefore, I join you. I would suggest let's argue (express, debate) each one's opinion in a big, constructive and productive way, NOT some minor or trival thoughts or personal. Remember, Freedom of Speech. I was attacked by some friends in some other blog, well, I don't mind because I am learning to be a mature person and tomorrow is another day. Furthermore, language is not an important issue as long as we all understand or agree the writers idea. We are learning something everyday. By the way, I write a very simple English and I don't have Chinese software. Smile, we are all friends. Cathrine, we might have something in common.
My friend, Aligator Hide: Thank you. What is so important the English? You said to me "Peter Shoe, polish YOU English". Do you mean--Peter Hsu, "polish YOUR English?" My friend, take it easy. Thoughts is more important than language.
Peter Hsu, I personally admire and respect you. Forget the people call you "Peter Shoe". Are you using your real name? I have a friend just about your age and he is a nice man.
Edward, are you San Jose's Edward? If so, oh, my God, it's been a long time, about 12 years, thanks to this blog. Please call me at (626) 320-3526. Peter Hsu is my real name.
Confucius traveled from place to place in his life time. After seeing so many people, he concluded that he had never seen a person who liked virtue as well as color.
Dear blog owner Tiao: I read Lynn's words on last Saturday morning. Lynn網友似乎有行為科學的基礎﹐ 非常深入談人性特點﹐ 但被你不分青紅皂百刪除.. ﹐ . Lynn's comment was to support your theme, not to oppose. no! not to oppose your theme.
Mr. Peter Hsu, somebody has changed your family name to Peter Shoe! I saw a big stone was thrown on you. However, it seems you are an open-minded gentleman. Be strong. My ESL teacher told me that "English is the worst language in the world." He says that his father's father.... brought English with the Mayflower from England to America and they created new American English-- expressions, slangs, Indian language, Western and sports idioms....Today, even the people in the East speak different English from the people in the West. So, it's not a big deal and don't worry about your English. I like the above Cici's "man see man love."(good English?) How about "people mountain people sea."(good English?) I hope your shoes are shining now. Again, forget about the low-down people's bad words. You don't expect an alien speaking excellent English!
Mr. Hsu has every rights to be recognized as the Honorable Hs"u". So everybody should respect his rights and please don't tangle here and let's move on.
...".Mr. Lynn 的留言著重於反人倫特例及描述,不適本欄,故予刪除。請理解"....You simply want to defend yourself. You lack knowledge of behavior science.
Mr. Tiao: Or MS. Tiao:You did not 理解 the paragraph.
No, you are wrong.You did not even read the paragraph thoroughly. You should go to university to take courses of psychology.. It is very人倫, Please be humble when facing the truth of human science.
No more response to Tiao's Inappropriate action to delete lynn's comments no matter what Tiao will say. We believe he, or she has learned the lesson from the comic strips. Tiao Be careful nest time.
When Bill Clinton visited Tienanman in 1989, he criticized sharply about China's lack of democracy. At that night, Jiang Zemin sent a gorgeous college student to Clinton's hotel room to have a nice chat on human rights. The following day, Bill talked no more.
I'm going to Tienanman Square to set up a shoeshine stand.
as big fortune is coming along with the Olympic games.
I'll make the old leather look like new.
It will be so shining that you can see your own nose.
Come to Beijing and have a tour.
I'll be waiting there with pleasure to serve.
留言
Mrs. Lee had reasons to shout because her suspicion came true.
That brokeback Ang Lee did have an affair with Wei Tang.
發表: 河東獅吼 | April 4, 2008 12:20 PM
Behind every man there is a woman.
Unfortunately, when he becomes successful, he is lured away...
發表: Middle-aged big wife | April 4, 2008 01:09 PM
When George Yeeee separated from his wife, he had a lover. When Lancelot married Ellin, the Queen was in his heart. It is not unusually for a man who lives for 80 to 90 years old without 2 or 3 women in his heart. "Behind every man there are more than a woman."
發表: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 01:33 PM
Yes, I agree with you, Mr A.
發表: G.Y. | April 4, 2008 01:42 PM
A and GY: you are being doubly negative, "it's not unusual", means it's usual for an 80 to 90 years old man without 2 or 3 women. What you really mean is that a man will have 2 or 3 women in his life time.
A men or a women does have several sex partners in his or her life time. But once married he or she shall have only one, by law.
發表: playboy bunny | April 4, 2008 02:30 PM
A man, who is rich and famous, can get another woman easier than an old woman to get another man....
發表: unfair | April 4, 2008 02:36 PM
Oh my aching back......
發表: 2nd Nai | April 4, 2008 02:37 PM
Please don't complain, this is "unfair" world.
發表: 3nd Nai | April 4, 2008 02:45 PM
What A means, make it simple, a man can have a wife and a lover in his heart. It is OK. History said it too.
發表: A Wife | April 4, 2008 02:48 PM
I might be too exciting. What I meant is a man in his long life might have 2 to 3 women in his heart plus a wife.
發表: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 02:50 PM
to 河東:
Don't smear Ang Lee's reputation here!
發表: Tiao :( | April 4, 2008 04:50 PM
Did you (Tiao ) get permission from Lee family to be roles in your cartoons? the roles and topics 諷刺性太強,招致反彈???? Would it be complained by Lee or even lawsuited by Lee ?
發表: J.K. | April 4, 2008 04:51 PM
Dear JK:
我想李安看了這漫畫,只會一笑置之。他分得清楚幽默與惡趣的不同。 而 “河東”的留言涉及的是謠言毀謗,可能會導致lawsuit。
惡趣,是傷害無辜,猶自鳴得意,層次不同。
謝謝您的留言。今後我會更加小心。
發表: Tiao | April 4, 2008 05:28 PM
刁,我覺得妳很棒。
發表: Fans | April 4, 2008 06:22 PM
Dear Tiao: I got it. Thank you for your explanation.
發表: j k | April 4, 2008 06:37 PM
It is an insinuating drawing which instills speculation. Yet Yiao is not responsible........?
發表: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 09:57 PM
The movie title is [Lust, Caution] without and inbetween.
發表: Anonymous | April 4, 2008 10:03 PM
成名的男人鐵定有人愛,即使老如楊振寧亦然.
發表: 金玉言 | April 5, 2008 05:18 AM
I surely admire the wealth and charm of Stanley Ho, the Gambling King of Macau, who has 4 wives.
發表: Anonymous | April 5, 2008 06:41 AM
I'd rather be like Edison Chen who is not married but has had so many famed Hong Kong movie stars, singers, and socialites as partners.
He is now settled in Canada and Hollywood movie business dosen't care about his luscious past.
發表: Lust Without Love | April 5, 2008 06:51 AM
Some Chinese governmental officials have a dozen of nais. But they banned Tang Wei from all media in China - TV, movie, print..etc. How will that poor girl make a living in China?
She ought to come to USA like Zhang ziyi did. Lee Ang would surely be glad to help her out.
發表: Unfair in China | April 5, 2008 07:28 AM
to Unfair:
我也覺得中共對湯唯的封殺太過了。要正風得從貪官污吏及其包二奶的劣俗開刀。對文人,藝術工作者戒嚴,只會激起更大的反彈。
章子怡的際遇,仍有待觀察。
發表: Tiao | April 5, 2008 08:30 AM
This picture has made women insulted, devalued, debased. Is Tiao a man or woman? It instills men to show their vulgar attitude towards women.
發表: Unfair to women | April 5, 2008 10:45 AM
Whenever and wherever theme of this kind is brought up to discussion, it is always women, not men in unfair 弱勢situation﹐..
發表: please pay respect to woman population | April 5, 2008 10:57 AM
The lioness are roaring
發表: 3rd nai | April 5, 2008 11:04 AM
We couldn't speak for "Edison Chen" who took luscious pictures for Hong Kong "movie stars". We only can ask "Chen" and these movie stars,
" If time can move forward, would you like to do this ? How much cost you have had paid for the controversial case aftermath ? ?"
發表: just ask Edison Chen and the women | April 5, 2008 11:10 AM
People like most animals are polygamists. Some men want or would fantasize of a multiple female partner relationship, like a king with a bunch of concubines. And other men stay with one mate for the reason either they've found true love, or they can't afford to stray away.
Now that doesn't make women exempt from the whole thing. Some women are just like those fantasizing males. They stay put because they are happy with their mates, or bound by duty like rearing the young and caring for the elderly. When the kids are grown and when they gain financial independence. They would divorce, if love waned.
發表: Anonymous | April 5, 2008 11:55 AM
Silent is the key. Women like to do it as well. But that chauvinist Edison Chen liked to show off his trophies that caused the trouble and brought down himself and his partners. He seemed to be more a lusty than a lovingly person. And his partners were likewise playful, except that girl named Ah-Jiao who seemed to be more devoted in the relationship.
發表: hong kong fooy | April 5, 2008 12:14 PM
夜路走多了碰到鬼.
發表: Anonymous | April 5, 2008 12:38 PM
Lynn,您離題了,故予刪除。請見諒。
發表: 二品帶刀 | April 5, 2008 02:29 PM
We are talking about lust, not love, and no rearing of offsprings is involved here.
Why was one of the German couple punished? Did he or she know that they were siblings at the time of wedding?
發表: 4th nai | April 5, 2008 02:33 PM
Lust is only a human possibility, but love is a divine gift. Treasure this gift.
發表: Tiao | April 5, 2008 02:50 PM
二品帶刀: Lynn is not away from topic. "People like most animals are polygamists" cited from comments allowed to post. ...polygamists is not allowed in civilized society. not good for heredity. I read it before you delete it. It simply respond to Anonymous | April 5, 2008 11:55 AM.
發表: 二品帶刀 | April 5, 2008 03:30 PM
Tiao: are you fair to your readers ?? 二品帶!!! It is bloody!
發表: 二品帶刀:Dont carry sword or knife in blog | April 5, 2008 03:35 PM
敬告讀者:
請至鄧海珠女士的版,閱其舊作”超級盃“及“情人沒法度“的讀者留言。您便能知”二品帶刀“此職銜的由來了。
網路匿名的不良傳統,是試驗人心黑暗面之絕佳處。君子慎獨!!
在此呼籲並鼓勵諸君,以真名留言。為保持此思想平台的品質,須有二品帶刀值勤。
謝謝您的留言。
Tiao
發表: Tiao | April 5, 2008 04:11 PM
I agree with Tiao!
It needs courage to leave messages with one's real name...but I'm not quite ready for this yet.
發表: 真名 | April 5, 2008 04:24 PM
好啦,別怕啦,那個帶刀的不會隨便砍人的。您可以談lust,但請言之有物。像11:55AM 的那篇就夠水準。
還有請儘量以中文表達,OK?
發表: Tiao | April 5, 2008 05:49 PM
I ain't got no Chinese sofeware and I can't write Chinese well.
發表: Anonymous | April 5, 2008 07:45 PM
what is love without lust?
發表: Anonymous | April 5, 2008 07:53 PM
Insha Alla, 二品帶刀, you insulted the muslim men who are allowed by Quran Bible to have 4 wives. Each wife is equal in the family. And their offsprings are equal as well. Not like Chinese, the big wife and her offsprinf are superior over the others.
Man, them muslims are no york.....
發表: 一品中正 | April 5, 2008 08:37 PM
懼內是種美德。
發表: 大丈夫 | April 6, 2008 08:07 AM
Abdu Amin lost a bit of his nose in a joint assault by his two wives after he jokingly threatened to marry a third woman.
發表: polygamy is no york | April 6, 2008 12:49 PM
Ang Lee PTT? He is a crouching tiger!
發表: Anonymous | April 6, 2008 01:13 PM
This kind of cartoon can be out! Ii misleads people. I feel Tiao bear hatred against Lee's wife .
發表: Double gun shooter | April 6, 2008 09:33 PM
這幅漫畫意識有問題,中傷了別人猶不自覺。李安夫人究竟做了什麼事要接受這種作者自以為是幽默而其實是無聊的侮辱?雖然世界新聞網早已說明文(畫)責自負,但仍應小心選擇放在首頁的文字或圖畫,須知世界曰報讀者水平是極高的,不是你寫什麼別人便會全盤接受。
發表: Catherine | April 6, 2008 10:02 PM
對!同意Catherine的意見,說得真好!這是無緣無故地醜化了李安夫人啊!你可以醜化公眾人物(如布希,陳水扁,馬英九。。。等),但李夫人不是公眾人物,她只是一個低調的公眾人物的太太而已!
發表: Mimi | April 6, 2008 10:15 PM
好啦,Mimi and Catherine, 我知道你們是同一個人。是幽默還是侮辱,見人見智。
當李安拍了此片接受採訪時,說了“中年危機“一詞。引發各界熱烈討論。這是世報民意論壇編輯所出的題目。
Mid-age crisis 是人纇通病,而李安先生的作品色戒,探討的又是情慾問題。借“河東獅吼”的典故,呼應金獅子的榮顯,也是種警惕吧。李安夫人代表了妳,我,她。
發表: Tiao | April 7, 2008 08:33 AM
Catherine and Mimi, I agreed with you and learned from you. You both are "Thumbs Up".
發表: Peter Hsu | April 7, 2008 08:39 AM
Diao, thank you for bringing this topic for discussion but don't be too serious.
發表: Anonymous | April 7, 2008 08:41 AM
另,世報是份中文報,有許多新移民及老人家,看較深的英文可能會有點吃力,我們應該顧及他們的感受。
首頁的作品是由Wjtalk的編輯所決定的。
這是個意見思想交流平台,我有幸有此機會與大家分享我的作品,十分珍惜您的回餽。
發表: Tiao | April 7, 2008 08:45 AM
Thank you, Ms. Tiao.
發表: readers | April 7, 2008 11:56 AM
in English or in Chinese, whichever grooves us. For those whose PC's have no Chinese software, English shall do.
The blog originators shall be open-minded enough to hear both positive and negative feedbacks. And never threaten commentors with swords.
發表: freedom of writing | April 7, 2008 04:14 PM
Taming of a shrew....
發表: shakespeare | April 7, 2008 04:32 PM
既然堅持要別人寫中文,自己就要先寫好中文,見仁見智寫成見人見智,這是什麼中文呢?其實世報讀者大部分的中文程度比你好,他們不寫中文是因為不懂打中文字,不是不想寫中文,你連這點也沒有想到,難怪隨便醜化人還不道歉,令人可惜。
謝謝Peter的意見,雖然只是間中交流,也知你是見多識講的學者。
Ps Mimi是從香港來這裏升大學的小女。
發表: Catherine | April 7, 2008 04:35 PM
對不起!見多識講打錯了!重看才發現,應是見多識廣。我是用手寫輸入板的。
發表: Catherine | April 7, 2008 04:39 PM
Every Chinese family I know, there is at least one divorce, either of the parents, or of their offspring.
Beside love and lust, there is also psychic need. If he or she can't keep up with the partner's desire, divorce may be the best answer.
發表: soul searching | April 7, 2008 04:50 PM
Peter Shoe, polish you English...
發表: Aligator Hide | April 7, 2008 04:56 PM
Dear Friends: I am a retired 63 old has-been. I enjoy my life now. When I look at my picture which was taken 30 years ago, I like(love) myself, however, not today. As I said, in this country, when you are 30 you are old. Well, I just found this blog (all bolgs in WJ )are intetesting, therefore, I join you. I would suggest let's argue (express, debate) each one's opinion in a big, constructive and productive way, NOT some minor or trival thoughts or personal. Remember, Freedom of Speech. I was attacked by some friends in some other blog, well, I don't mind because I am learning to be a mature person and tomorrow is another day. Furthermore, language is not an important issue as long as we all understand or agree the writers idea. We are learning something everyday. By the way, I write a very simple English and I don't have Chinese software. Smile, we are all friends. Cathrine, we might have something in common.
發表: Peter Hsu | April 7, 2008 05:08 PM
Tiao has just invented a new phrase, 見人見智, which means "see people see wisdom". Confucius will be please to hear that. We must give her credit for it.
Americans have accepted the famous Chinese greeting, "long time no see".
An American friend of mine always greets me with "Nee how ma" and never forgets to say "xie, xie".
發表: chinglish | April 7, 2008 05:14 PM
My friend, Aligator Hide: Thank you. What is so important the English? You said to me "Peter Shoe, polish YOU English". Do you mean--Peter Hsu, "polish YOUR English?" My friend, take it easy. Thoughts is more important than language.
發表: Peter Hsu | April 7, 2008 05:18 PM
Having been negatively criticized by DPP all these years, Ma is still keeping his poise. And he will lead ROC with pride.
發表: Anonymous | April 7, 2008 05:24 PM
Mr Hide, don't hide yourself. Tell George Bush polish you English.
發表: Anonymous | April 7, 2008 05:24 PM
Let's talk about the topic-- Ang Lee's Lust and Caution not the language.
發表: Anonymous | April 7, 2008 05:27 PM
This is an American way of joking, because "polish is consequential to shoe, just like "cook is to food" and "spend is to money".
發表: See you later, aligator | April 7, 2008 05:36 PM
Like make is to love
發表: chinglish | April 7, 2008 05:36 PM
Peter Hsu, I personally admire and respect you. Forget the people call you "Peter Shoe". Are you using your real name? I have a friend just about your age and he is a nice man.
發表: Edward Huang | April 7, 2008 06:25 PM
Edward, are you San Jose's Edward? If so, oh, my God, it's been a long time, about 12 years, thanks to this blog. Please call me at (626) 320-3526. Peter Hsu is my real name.
發表: Peter Hsu | April 7, 2008 06:41 PM
to A: Forgive Bush's English. He has an IQ of 91, which is below the average of 100. Clinton has 182, the highest among the US presidents.
All the savings accumulated during Clinton administration has been used up by Bush.
So support Hillary as Bill will be her advisor in all categories and let America be prosperous again.
發表: A Democrat | April 7, 2008 07:47 PM
刁 is a princess charming, man see man love, 人見人愛.
發表: Cici | April 8, 2008 03:19 AM
Confucius traveled from place to place in his life time. After seeing so many people, he concluded that he had never seen a person who liked virtue as well as color.
發表: Cici | April 8, 2008 08:25 AM
Dear blog owner Tiao: I read Lynn's words on last Saturday morning. Lynn網友似乎有行為科學的基礎﹐ 非常深入談人性特點﹐ 但被你不分青紅皂百刪除.. ﹐ . Lynn's comment was to support your theme, not to oppose. no! not to oppose your theme.
發表: a morning bird | April 8, 2008 08:59 AM
這裡如此熱鬧..
發表: Anonymous | April 8, 2008 11:34 AM
拿著漫畫與真實人物對號入座,本身就成了漫畫素材,不是嗎?
發表: Duo | April 8, 2008 11:55 AM
Mr. Lynn 的留言著重於反人倫特例及描述,不適本欄,故予刪除。請理解
發表: 二品帶刀 敬上 | April 8, 2008 12:00 PM
Mr. Peter Hsu, somebody has changed your family name to Peter Shoe! I saw a big stone was thrown on you. However, it seems you are an open-minded gentleman. Be strong. My ESL teacher told me that "English is the worst language in the world." He says that his father's father.... brought English with the Mayflower from England to America and they created new American English-- expressions, slangs, Indian language, Western and sports idioms....Today, even the people in the East speak different English from the people in the West. So, it's not a big deal and don't worry about your English. I like the above Cici's "man see man love."(good English?) How about "people mountain people sea."(good English?) I hope your shoes are shining now. Again, forget about the low-down people's bad words. You don't expect an alien speaking excellent English!
發表: An Alien | April 8, 2008 12:18 PM
Since when Peter Hsu becomes the center of this discussion? His English is not bad, and he is not Ma Yin Joul.
發表: Anonymous | April 8, 2008 12:22 PM
Mr. Hsu has every rights to be recognized as the Honorable Hs"u". So everybody should respect his rights and please don't tangle here and let's move on.
發表: Anonymous | April 8, 2008 02:55 PM
I made a lot of money from shining shoes in Shanghai.
發表: Anonymous | April 8, 2008 08:18 PM
Lynn said that polygamy was immoral. Unfortunately, men in power and men of wealth are doing it through out the history.......
發表: Anonymous | April 8, 2008 08:23 PM
This column draws more attention than other blogs do. It prove sex sells.
發表: Anonymous | April 8, 2008 09:17 PM
Mr TiaO::or Mr. Tiao
...".Mr. Lynn 的留言著重於反人倫特例及描述,不適本欄,故予刪除。請理解"....You simply want to defend yourself. You lack knowledge of behavior science.
Mr. Tiao: Or MS. Tiao:You did not 理解 the paragraph.
No, you are wrong.You did not even read the paragraph thoroughly. You should go to university to take courses of psychology.. It is very人倫, Please be humble when facing the truth of human science.
發表: shame on the stubborn , illiterate | April 8, 2008 09:55 PM
No more response to Tiao's Inappropriate action to delete lynn's comments no matter what Tiao will say. We believe he, or she has learned the lesson from the comic strips. Tiao Be careful nest time.
發表: Tiao must have learned the lesson. | April 8, 2008 10:01 PM
Ms. Tiao is not to be mocked but pampered.
發表: Anonymous | April 9, 2008 12:44 AM
Ma is in middle age. Will he have a crisis as other man do?
發表: Cici | April 9, 2008 12:49 AM
When Bill Clinton visited Tienanman in 1989, he criticized sharply about China's lack of democracy. At that night, Jiang Zemin sent a gorgeous college student to Clinton's hotel room to have a nice chat on human rights. The following day, Bill talked no more.
發表: Anonymous | April 9, 2008 01:09 AM
I'm going to Tienanman Square to set up a shoeshine stand.
as big fortune is coming along with the Olympic games.
I'll make the old leather look like new.
It will be so shining that you can see your own nose.
Come to Beijing and have a tour.
I'll be waiting there with pleasure to serve.
發表: Sam Shoemaker | April 9, 2008 01:46 AM
怎麼色戒變成擦鞋啦?
發表: 皮厚 | April 9, 2008 07:51 AM
為人民服務
發表: 擦鞋 | April 9, 2008 11:42 PM